Avengers: endgame executive producer trinh tran on killing thanos, marvel"s phase 4, and more


As an EP on "The Avengers: Infinity War" & "Endgame," Tran knows a thing or two about wrangling superheroes, on & off screen.


Marvel Studios" Avengers: Endgame is finally here, và fans can barely contain themselves. In fact, theaters across the country are selling out so fast some have sầu even added around-the-cloông chồng showings for a film whose runtime is north of three hours — và those are near capathành phố, too. Endgame marks the culmination of almost 11 years of storytelling for one of the most lucrative franchises in the world & it"s predicted lớn dominate the weekend box office with a staggering $800+ million global opening.

As fans crowd into lớn theaters many are trying lớn figure out what Endgame will ultimately mean for the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. With both new characters being introduced over the past few years and the franchise taking a more diverse approach to storytelling, fans are looking khổng lồ Kevin Feige, the studio"s president, for hints about where it"s going next. But he isn"t the only one who has input as khổng lồ where the MCU is heading.

Executive producer Trinh Tran has been part of Marvel Studgame ios since Iron Man flew inlớn theaters in 2008. Bachồng then, she was an assistant to production manager Charlie Davis and finance executive sầu Matt Finiông chồng, but in the decade since the MCU launched, Tran has ascended through multiple roles khổng lồ become an associate producer on Captain America: Civil War and, then, an executive producer for Avengers: Infinity War & Endgame.

No longer an assistant, Tran is part of the creative sầu team that has a say in shaping the stories that will drive sầu the MCU inkhổng lồ the future. With that, Shondal& caught up with Tran ahead of the release of Avengers: Endgame to lớn talk about the MCU"s goal khổng lồ tell more inclusive sầu stories, and why it"s so critical lớn have sầu women"s voices both on & off the screen.

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YOLANDA MACHADO: I feel like I"m representing women of color fans being here, talking with you. You and Victoria Alonso (another executive sầu producer at Marvel Studios) are unsung heroes to us. How much impact, particularly being a woman of color, does that have sầu on the stories you want lớn see reflected in the MCU going forward?

TRINH TRAN: Well, I think it"s very, very, very important. I want to ức chế that. It"s like, we always want our female nhân vật lớn shine, just as much as their male counterpart. So, khổng lồ be able lớn look at Endgame & see all these women up there along with the men is pretty exciting compared lớn several years ago, when we had the Avengers và you only saw Black Widow. So I think the company definitely is heading towards a direction where we want to lớn see more of that because the tín đồ base is craving that.

With the success of Captain Marvel and how everybody"s embracing it, it makes me feel so happy and excited because that"s just opening doors for us to lớn say it"s okay khổng lồ continue having more female representation. And then with the cultural phenomenon of Black Panther, it"s
more diversity và minorities in our MCU. I think that"s exciting, and we"re always heading towards that direction. We have so many characters at Marvel and so much more khổng lồ explore. I think it makes for better stories. It makes for a much more interesting story — for more relatable stories that everytoàn thân can connect with, because look at how diverse the world is! We should represent that on the screen.


YM: The audience makeup is so widespread across different cultures, ages, và countries. Do you take that into tài khoản when planning the next phase or the next films? Or even when you were planning on Endgame, was that something that you were thinking about?

TT: It"s always in our mind, right? It"s always in our mind lớn make sure that what we"re telling — without getting into detail about what this movie is about or anything — a wide representation & age, because we"re hearing what the audience wants. We"re making the movies for the fans and the public, & as much as we"re passionate about doing it, we want to lớn represent what they want khổng lồ see.

We want little girls of all ages — 12, or it could be 5, or it could be, you know, a 50-year-old woman — khổng lồ enjoy this. Then we"ve got to show them; we"ve got to give them more of that. And the more we do it, the more diverse that is — in age, in color, và gender — I think that makes better for everything.

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YM: Unfortunately, with so many studies about female representation, especially about women of color, it"s barely getting noticed that, behind the scenes, representation is even lower than we see in front of the camera. As a producer, what are you doing khổng lồ change that within Marvel Studios?

TT: I"ve actually been on Infinity War and Endgame for the last four years. So I haven"t had much of an opportunity to go out in terms of looking for writers and directors because I"ve only worked with the Russo brothers for the last seven years, actually. But as we progress, it"s very important that we get more women involved.

There are so many great directors & writers & crew members out there. For example, our stunt coordinator was one of our stunt doubles, but you hardly ever see women stunt coordinators. So, it"s just seeing that và seeing the impact that it has for the other crew members lớn see that. There"s a leader who is a woman in a field that is usually dominated by males — to lớn be able to lớn see her rise lớn the occasion, it"s exciting! It gets everybody toàn thân excited — especially the women in the industry — and shows that anything is possible. And we push each other khổng lồ strive sầu to get more women in that field.

YM: I am a critic as well as a journalist, so one of the things with Infinity War, though I really loved it, the arcs the female characters ended up taking were a little disappointing, which was a sentiment that was shared by many women that are fans of the franchise. Did you look at any of that feedbaông chồng & put it into revising Endgame?

TT: That"s a great question. I can"t say much about Endgame, unfortunately. But I think once you see the movie you"ll know. But, for example, in Infinity War, we"re striving as hard as we can to lớn make as much of these moments as possible. Like one of my favorite moments in Infinity War was when the women are fighting in the trench. It"s stuff lượt thích that, that really empowers us, and we"re always fighting lớn get more of that represented in each of our movies. So me personally, I"m always striving to see how much more we can do for our female heroes so that they stand in balance with their male counterparts & sort of showcase them as strong, heroic role models that we can all have little girls look up khổng lồ.


YM: Which brings me to my last question. The conversation is shifting when talking about what female empowerment looks like today. Is that something you"re taking into tài khoản — the change of what empowerment means lớn women?

TT: That"s a great question. I don"t even know how to answer that.

YM: Well, for instance, like Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2, she was a strong female in the "90s, because we didn"t have sầu that much representation in terms of what a strong woman was supposed to look like baông chồng then. Moving forward, we just got Wonder Woman a couple of years ago, and now Captain Marvel. But each of these women are different. Lindomain authority Hamilton"s physicality made her empowered. For Wonder Woman, it was her kindness and her willingness to jump in & save humanity. Captain Marvel"s brand of empowerment is more of the "I don"t care what you think of me, I"m going to lớn bởi this" mentality. So these are different things that all showcase empowerment. So is this something you guys are looking forward lớn imparting into lớn your female characters?

TT: Absolutely. I think with the amount of female characters that we have sầu, they"re all individual in a way, và they all exude a different type of heroism. Like you said, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel — they both represent something different. It is very important that we"re always looking at these individual characters và how they can be portrayed to lớn the audience, and listening khổng lồ the feedbaông chồng of how it"s impacting the public out there — và making sure that we also stay true khổng lồ their characters as well. For example, Okoye, who"s a great leader of the Dora Milaje Blachồng Panther>, we make sure that she still represents that leadership, & carries that throughout her character arc. But it"s that type of svào leadership in each and every one of , và they all actually carry a different trait that I hope everybody sees in Endgame.

This interview has been edited for length và clarity.

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