Is the ryzen 3 3300x better value than the ryzen 5 3600?


Today we"re revisiting AMD"s budget-oriented Ryzen 3 3300X. This Ryzen 3 CPU thoroughly impressed us when it launched about two months ago, however since that day-one nhận xét we"ve sầu barely looked baông chồng lớn see where it stands. In perspective, many things have happened in the past few months, in and outside of tech. Supply of components has been tight và you may reHotline that at the time AMD had decided khổng lồ axe pháo tư vấn for all 400-series motherboards.

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If you followed that drama you’ll know we spent quite a bit of time & energy fighting AMD on that one và eventually helped get them to lớn walk baông xã that decision.

By the time that was resolved we were moving on khổng lồ Intel 10th-gen Vi xử lý Core testing, then we had the Z490 motherboards which morphed inkhổng lồ B550 testing, though that’s largely on hold now until stoông xã arrives.

The plan was always to lớn go bachồng for some detailed Ryzen 3 testing & we began khổng lồ lay the groundwork for this GPU scaling content many weeks ago. Timing hasn’t been great though, with stochồng virtually non-existent and therefore we’ve sầu been sitting on the data. Ultimately we decided not khổng lồ delay the blue bar graphs any longer, so when eventually things come bachồng to normal you’ll be armed with even more information.

For this chạy thử we"re comparing the 3300X against the Ryzen 5 3600 và Ryzen 5 2600. In previous GPU scaling benchmarks we had also tested the 3900X and 9900K, though this time we decided khổng lồ leave sầu those out in an effort to lớn declutter the graphs, but we"ll gọi on some of that data towards the over of the article.

Before we get khổng lồ it, some basic demo notes... we paired the CPUs with G.Skill’s FlareX DDR4-3200 CL14 memory và a Corsair H115i Pro cooler. Any tự động hóa overclocking features such as MCE or PBO have been disabled và the memory hasn’t been tuned, just XMPhường. loaded, so it’s just out of the box performance with a chất lượng AIO & low latency memory.

Do note the demo thiết lập for this article is a bit different to lớn what we"ve sầu used for our recent CPU nhận xét and that will influence the results. We’re using just two memory modules for single rank operation, whereas we"ve used four modules in the most recent CPU reviews for dual rank memory. Some of the areas used for testing the games have sầu also been updated in those articles.


Starting with Assassin’s Creed Odyssey using the medium unique premix at 1080p, we find that the 3300X is positioned between the 2600 và 3600 when using the RTX 2080 Ti, making the R5 3600 around 15% faster. However, dropping down lớn the RTX 2070 Super eliminates that margin almost entirely, now the 3600 is just a single frame faster. The 3300X was still 11% faster than the 2600 though, so a decent little lead over the 2nd-ren part.


By the time we hit the Radeon RX 5700 though, we’re looking at very similar performance for all three processors. The 3300X is only 5% faster than the 2600 & ~2% slower than the 3600 as we become more GPU limited.

Once we drop down lớn the Radeon RX 580, we’re entirely bound by the GPU and the results we see here are largely within the margin of error. Needless to lớn say, you won’t spot any differences between the 3600 & 3300X when gaming under these conditions.


If we increase the chất lượng preset a few notches to the max setting, unsurprisingly the results become far more GPU bound & homogeneous. Rethành viên we’re still only testing at 1080p. It won"t matter what kind of graphics card you have, RX 580, 5700, 2070 Super or even the 2080 Ti, you’ll be looking at virtually identical frame rates with any of these CPUs.


Same game but we"re looking at results using 1440p resolution và the medium preset. This data is significantly more GPU limited with the GeForce GPUs. The 3300X & 3600 delivered identical, or virtually identical performance using all four GPUs, making them a little faster than the 2600.


Finally we have sầu the Assassin’s Creed Odyssey results using the ultra high + 1440p. No surprises here, we’re almost entirely GPU bound and within this group of CPUs, there"s no difference in gameplay performance. If you plan on playing this và other similar games with maximum unique settings, you’re mostly going khổng lồ find the system is bound by GPU performance.


Moving on lớn Far Cry New Dawn, here we find similar average frame rate performance between the 3300X và 3600, but the 6-core processor does deliver better 1% low results, suggesting we’re getting slightly more consistent performance with the higher-end CPU. It’s also interesting lớn note that although slower for both the average and 1% low performance, the Ryzen 5 2600 sees just a 23% variation between the two metrics whereas the 3300X sees up lớn a 29% difference, suggesting once more that the experience won’t be as smooth.

Interestingly, using the Radeon RX 5700 the 3300X’s average frame rate falls away from the 3600. We’ve sầu found in the past that AMD’s drivers produce more overhead, so perhaps that’s what we’re seeing here. By the time we drop down lớn the RX 580 things start to lớn come together, but even here we still see that the increased latency of the Zen+ architecture is a bit of a problem for the 2600.


We find more interesting Far Cry New Dawn results at 1080p when increasing the prephối unique to lớn ‘Ultra’. This appears lớn increase CPU load và the 3300X is now up lớn 10% slower than the 3600 when comparing average frame rates.

We also see a substantial drop off for the 2600 when comparing 1% low data. The performance trends for the RX 5700, 2070 Super & 2080 Ti look similar và it’s not until we drop down lớn the more modest RX 580 that we see similar frame rates.


Now for the 1440p results using the normal quality settings, compared lớn what we saw at 1080p there"s a smaller gap between the 3300X và 3600 when using the RX 5700 and we also see a significant difference in performance between the RX 5700 & RX 580. Of course, this is because the game is more GPU limited at the higher resolution.


The 1440p ultra quality data shows very little difference between the 3300X và 3600 using even the RTX 2080 Ti. At 1080p the 3600 was up to 10% faster, here that margin has been halved khổng lồ 5%.


Testing with Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege & 1080p medium chất lượng data (labeled as ‘high’ in this game), we have sầu some more interesting data. With the RTX 2080 Ti the 3600 is just 4% faster than the 3300X when comparing averages, but 14% faster when comparing 1% lows. As a result, the 3600 sees a 27% performance disparity between its average and 1% low figure, while the 3300X sees almost 40% disparity, suggesting that the 6-core processor is delivering a smoother more consistent gaming experience.

That difference is somewhat neutralized with the slower RTX 2070 Super and in fact here the 3300X produces a tighter grouping of frames due khổng lồ a stronger GPU bottleneông xã. We see this effect continue as we lower the GPU horsepower.


If we increase the graphics preset to ultra while still maintaining a 1080p resolution, we find with GPUs such as the RTX 2070 Super, Radeon RX 5700 và RX 580 that the 3300X & 3600 deliver the same level of performance as both are heavily GPU limited.

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We see a big hit khổng lồ performance by simply increasing the resolution, now at 1440p using the ‘High’ unique setting, the RTX 2080 Ti has dropped down khổng lồ under 200 fps with the Ryzen 5 3600. As a result we see very little performance difference between the tested processors. The 3600 is a few percent faster with the RTX 2080 Ti và then identical performance is seen with the 2070 Super.


For those of you gaming at 1440p using ultra quality type of settings, here"s more evidence that the CPU isn"t as relevant as the graphics chip powering your game. It’s impossible to lớn distinguish between any of the CPUs used here & the 3300X was capable of maintaining well over 100 fps at all times with the RTX 2080 Ti.


The last game we’re checking out is World War Z. Testing at 1080p with the medium unique prephối sees virtually no performance difference between the 2080 Ti, 2070 Super và even the RX 5700, while the RX 580 isn’t far behind. Here we find a scenario that is almost entirely CPU limited.

In all this data the 3300X was up to 11% slower than the 3600 with similar margins between the average & 1% low data. So it’s important to note that while the 3600 is clearly faster, the gaming experience wasn’t any better, at least not to the degree that you’d be able lớn notice.


Even when stepping up to lớn the ultra chất lượng settings we see virtually the same results.


The 1440p medium quality results aren’t that different either, though we start to lớn see the 3300X & 3600 come together with the Radeon RX 5700.


It"s not until we tested at 1440p with ultra graphics that the game starts lớn become a little more GPU bound, so we’re now seeing similar performance from the 3300X and 3600 with the RTX 2070 Super.

Performance Summary

We know four games isn’t a lot, but it took almost 300 benchmarks just khổng lồ add the Ryzen 3 3300X into this comparison. The games used should also cover most performance scenargame ios. That being the case, let’s see what the average performance looks like and for drawing more reference comparisons, we’ll be adding in the Ryzen 9 3900X và bộ vi xử lý Core i9-9900K lớn the following graphs.

At 1080p with medium graphics settings, when using the faschạy thử available RTX GPU today, the Ryzen 5 3600 is ~11% faster than the 3300X when comparing 1% low data. That’s a reasonable performance uplift but when you consider we’re talking about a 1/2 increase in core count, it’s really not that significant. Moreover, the 3300X was averaging 1đôi mươi fps at all times in this testing.


Now if you’re not using an RTX 2080 Ti và instead have a $500 graphics thẻ lượt thích the RTX 2070 Super, then that 11% margin shrinks lớn just 4%, or 6% with a Radeon RX 5700. With a more modest GPU lượt thích a sub-$200 RX 580, there’s no margin to lớn speak of.


If we increase the games" resolution to 1440p while still playing on medium settings, we see that the 3600 is now just 5% faster than the 3300X with the RTX 2080 Ti. Similar margins are seen with the RTX 2070 Super & RX 5700.


Looking at the ultra unique premix, we see pretty typical scaling as we go down the GPU stack. With the RTX 2080 Ti the 3600 is 8% faster than the 3300X when looking at the 1% low data, then 6% faster with the RTX 2070 Super, và just 5% faster with the Radeon RX 5700.


Finally, here’s a look at the 1440p ultra data, probably the most realistic scenario for someone rocking a high-end graphics thẻ lượt thích the RTX 2070 Super or RTX 2080 Ti. Here we’re looking at just a 5% difference between the 3600 và 3300X and that means in the games just tested, the 1% low performance of the Ryzen 9 3900X was just 11% better than the 3300X.

Those margins shrink considerably with the RTX 2070 Super, where the 3600 was a mere 3% faster than the 3300X, while virtually no difference can be seen with the Radeon RX 5700.

What We Learned

Two months ago we called the Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X the new budget champions. Since then Intel has released newer 10th-gen Vi xử lý Core chips, including the Vi xử lý Core i3 range, but those new parts have failed to lớn dethrone Ryzen 3. The only problem at the moment is that you can buy the bộ vi xử lý Core i3-10100, but you’re unlikely to lớn find a 3300X anywhere.

The R3 3100 & 3300X have been out of stoông xã for weeks, which is disappointing, & it’s unclear when stoông chồng will return. Needless to lớn say, we’re seeing stock shortages for a whole host of PC parts, so it’s not just the 3300X that’s been affected by the global pandemic, it’s everything.

Unless stochồng levels were high prior to going inkhổng lồ 20đôi mươi, there’s a good chance many products are either overpriced or simply unavailable. The Ryzen 5 3600, for example, went on sale mid-2019 and with high demand for that part, you can bet AMD was spitting them out as fast as they could, building up a sizable inventory that they’re now able lớn burn through.

As a result the Ryzen 5 3600 is not only available today, but it’s available at a discount, typically selling for around $175, down from the $200 MSRP. That makes the 3600 the cheapest Zen 2-based processor you can buy right now.

But what if the Ryzen 3 3300X was available? That may be the case when this article goes live, or two weeks after... but if it were available at $130, should you buy it for gaming?

It’s a quad-core after all, và those are useless for gaming aren’t they? Well, as we explained last year in a feature titled “Are Quad-cores Finally Dead in 2019?”, it depends. We found that 4-core/4-thread quad-core processors struggle in a number of modern games, often suffering from poor frame time performance that leads to a noticeably poor gaming experience. However, 4-core/8-thread processors lượt thích the 3300X featuring SMT (simultaneous multithreading) are much better in that regard và generally avoid stuttery performance in modern titles. This is why processors like the Chip Core i7-4790K, 6700K and 7700K still work quite well even today, while its Core i5 equivalents bởi not.

Another big consideration is price. With the Ryzen 5 3600 dropping down lớn just $175, that"s only a $45 saving (25%) when opting the 3300X. You’re taking a 33% core cut, but as we just saw in a lot of instances, the impact on gaming performance is smaller than either of those figures. Basically, if you’re looking at upgrading an old system and you want lớn save as much money as possible, the ability lớn save $45 on the CPU might be a pretty big deal -- especially if you won’t notice a performance difference.

Even when compared lớn a class-leading gaming CPU lượt thích the Vi xử lý Core i9-9900K (now the Vi xử lý Core i7-10700K), in a lot of games the Ryzen 3 3300X isn’t that much slower. Talking realistic conditions -- so not an RTX 2080 Ti at 1080p using medium settings where the 3300X was ~20% slower than the 9900K, that margin shrunk khổng lồ just 13% when playing at ultra or 12% at 1440p, where it enabled over 100 fps on average.

All that said, if you can afford to lớn step up lớn the Ryzen 5 3600, then we suggest you bởi vì. The 3300X is a solid CPU và a good value, but it"s right on the edge where there’s a potential for 4-core/8-thread processors khổng lồ become problematic down the traông chồng. It’s far more obvious to us that the R5 3600 will become noticeably better than the 3300X within the next few years, whereas we"re doubtful we’ll see the same happening with the 3700X vs. 3600, for example. It"s our opinion that we"re a while off before 6-core/12-thread processors won"t cut it for gamers, regardless of how many cores the new consoles have sầu.

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